RotationalAdamW
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RotationalAdamW has 28 facts recorded in Dontopedia across 12 references, with 3 live disagreements.
Mostly:rdf:type(3), stores(2), not same as(2)
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| Predicate | Value | Ref |
|---|---|---|
| Rdf:type | Software Component | [8] |
| Rdf:type | Optimizer | [10] |
| Rdf:type | Optimizer | [11] |
| Stores | Second Moment V | [3] |
| Stores | First Moment M | [3] |
| Not Same As | Adamw | [9] |
| Not Same As | Adam With Weight Decay | [9] |
| Not Required for | Model Components | [1] |
| Is Complex | true | [1] |
| Is Optimizer Port | deferred | [1] |
| Distinguished From | Adamw | [2] |
| Stores Per | Parameter | [3] |
| Teleologically Optimizes | Adamw Variant | [3] |
| Has Phase Dynamics | Working As Theory Predicts | [4] |
| Exhibits Selective Crystallization | null | [4] |
| Optimizes | Model | [5] |
| Has Rot Strength | 0.1 | [5] |
| Contrasts With | Adam | [6] |
| Provides Sphere Projection Diagnostics | Sphere Projection Diagnostics | [6] |
| Proposed As Stability Fix | null | [7] |
| Has Performance Context | GPT-2 scale | [8] |
| Needs Ternary Projection Step | true | [10] |
| Described As | cheap | [11] |
| Has Diagnostic | Sphere Projection Diagnostics | [12] |
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References (12)
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[2026-03-09 00:25] xenonfun: okay at least generating something probablt still some bugs. ⏺ Committed and pushed. Key things done this session: 1. docs/symbiogenesis.md saved as a core document, linked prominently from CLAUDE.md 2. Roo…
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[2026-03-09 01:19] xenonfun: ⏺ BP = Backpropagation — whether the optimizer computes gradients via automatic differentiation or not. Adam / RotAdamW use standard backprop: 1. Forward pass → compute loss 2. nn.value_and_grad() → autod…
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[2026-03-13 20:46] xenonfun: ⏺ This tells a clear story: Current trained weights are NOT naturally ternary. Only ~46% of values are near {-1, 0, 1} after scaling (random Gaussian would give ~47%, so no better than chance). Relative err…
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[2026-03-14 03:41] xenonfun: Why Keeping the Spherical Head Still Makes Sense (performace at 600K parm scale is effectively same as euclidian head) ``` Even if performance is the same, the spherical head is still the better design. Reasons…
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[2026-03-19 03:47] xenonfun: ``` ❯ do we not have concept of SNR and bandwidth in these or they pure rotation and geometry? ⏺ They're pure rotation and geometry right now — no SNR or bandwidth concepts. The ResonantWireLM has no attention,…
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