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[2026-01-19 22:31] ajaxdavis: and just a ui schema in general (tools will just be a subset) [2026-01-19 23:10] traves_theberge: I think json render is a good fit. [2026-01-19 23:11] traves_theberge: Why do a sense a framework brewing lol 😆 [2026-01-20 10:29] foxhop.: ``` Z.ai’s current Terms of Use grant them a very broad license over anything you send them, including code, and do not promise that your content will be excluded from model improvement or training. ​ What their terms say about your content The terms define “User Content” (which would include any code you paste or send) and state that you grant Z.ai and its affiliates an “unconditional, irrevocable, non‑exclusive, royalty‑free, fully transferable, sub‑licensable, perpetual, worldwide license” to use it. ​ This license explicitly covers rights to “access, use, host, modify, communicate, reproduce, adapt, create derivative works from, publish, perform, and distribute your User Content, and to authorize others to do so, in any format and on any platform.” ​ Those terms are compatible with using your data for service operation, analytics, and model improvement; they do not include language limiting use of your content to “service provision only” or excluding it from training. ​ What this means for your code base If you send proprietary code through Z.ai (web app or API), you should assume it may be used internally, including for improving services and models, unless Z.ai offers a separate enterprise agreement or written opt‑out that overrides the default license. ​ If you need strict guarantees that your code will not be used for training, you should: Ask Z.ai sales/support for a data‑control or no‑training agreement in writing. ​ Avoid sending sensitive or regulated code until you have that in place. In short: under the standard public terms, Z.ai does not promise to avoid training on your code, and the license you grant them would legally allow that use. ``` [2026-01-20 10:35] foxhop.: claudes terms (files: message.txt) [2026-01-20 10:35] foxhop.: (files: message.txt) [2026-01-20 10:36] lisamegawatts: github, under guidance of microsoft said "all your base are belong to us" [2026-01-20 10:38] lisamegawatts: what funny is z ai had a claude skill in their new v0 clone app [2026-01-20 10:42] lisamegawatts: pretty sure a judge ordered open ai to store and not delete [2026-01-20 10:48] lisamegawatts: Z.ai and OpenAI offer open-source model weights, while Anthropic (Claude) does not. [2026-01-20 11:03] lisamegawatts: https://developers.googleblog.com/introducing-a2ui-an-open-project-for-agent-driven-interfaces/ [2026-01-20 12:26] foxhop.: z ai model is absolutely huge [2026-01-20 12:27] foxhop.: can work with a 24G vRAM but needs 128G RAM [2026-01-20 12:27] foxhop.: (quantized and other tricks to offload experts into ram) [2026-01-20 12:28] foxhop.: 4090 machine only has 32G ram :' (