Problem 1
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Problem 1 has 14 facts recorded in Dontopedia across 8 references, with 1 live disagreement.
Mostly:causes ineffectiveness(1), describes lr reduction(1), is gradient normalization killing magnitude(1)
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| Predicate | Value | Ref |
|---|---|---|
| Causes Ineffectiveness | Lr Reduction | [1] |
| Describes Lr Reduction | Not Sticking | [1] |
| Is Gradient Normalization Killing Magnitude | Lohe Optimizer | [2] |
| Caused by Averaging All Modality Step Times | null | [3] |
| Fixed by Using Text Only Step Times | null | [3] |
| Involves Tok S Inflated | null | [3] |
| Leads to Worse Behavior | Near Zero Vectors | [4] |
| Involves Mx Maximum Vs Additive Eps | Different Numerical Behavior | [4] |
| Rdf:type | Technical Issue | [5] |
| Has Description | coupling, log_adjacency, harmonic_coeffs are never updated | [6] |
| Involves Gradient Normalization | grad = mx.where(g_norm > 1.0, grad / g_norm, grad) | [7] |
| Located at Line | 236 | [7] |
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References (8)
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[2026-03-06 16:23] xenonfun: On making conversational: ``` Right — no EOS token means the model just generates forever until you hit max_new_tokens. A few paths to fix this, in order of effort: 1. Heuristic stop (zero retraining, works …
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[2026-03-10 03:16] xenonfun: well I imagine data from working RotAdamW will be informative for it as to how to correct behavior / step issues in LoheOptimizer [2026-03-10 03:17] xenonfun: also that will be recorded [2026-03-10 03:38] xenonf…
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[2026-03-10 04:10] xenonfun: ⏺ Working correctly now. Full comparison: ```┌──────────────────────┬────────────────────┬─────────────────────────┐ │ │ RotAdamW fine-tune │ LoheOptimizer fine-tune │ ├─────────────────…
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[2026-03-13 20:06] xenonfun: It tried its fuckery again but we learned an antipattern to remember. ```⏺ Here's the difference: _normalize (attention.py:136-141): norm = mx.sqrt(mx.maximum(sum(x²), eps)) # eps=1e-6 for float32 x / no…
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