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RotAdamW

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RotAdamW has 76 facts recorded in Dontopedia across 16 references, with 6 live disagreements.

76 facts·63 predicates·16 sources·6 in dispute

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derivedFromDerived From(1)

evaluatesAsStableEvaluates As Stable(1)

hasNearIdenticalForwardHas Near Identical Forward(1)

isSlowerThanIs Slower Than(1)

isWorseThanIs Worse Than(1)

performsWorseThanPerforms Worse Than(1)

preferredOverPreferred Over(1)

pretrainsWithPretrains With(1)

sharesModelForwardWithShares Model Forward With(1)

usesOptimizerUses Optimizer(1)

Other facts (71)

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71 facts
PredicateValueRef
Rdf:typeAlgorithm[13]
Rdf:typeSoftware System[14]
Rdf:typeOptimization Algorithm[15]
Rdf:typeOptimizer[16]
Has ComponentR Adaptive[16]
Has ComponentCompiledrotationaladamw[16]
Has ComponentCentering Diagnostics[16]
Kept Only AsAblation Path[10]
Kept Only AsAlternate Path[10]
Enforces Physicstrue[11]
Enforces PhysicsLohe Based Block[16]
Applicable toHarmonicgpt[16]
Applicable toWire Work[16]
Converges SlowlyTraining[1]
Achieves Memory Savings-14% peak[1]
IncludesTangent Projection[1]
Is Slower by~3%[1]
Uses Memory325MB[1]
Config Avg Rotationlr=3e-4, wd=0.01, beta1=0.9[1]
Despite Extra OpsTangent Projection Ops[1]
Requires Longer HorizonsStabilization[1]
Ppl at Iterations1462 at 1K iters[1]
Throughput174 it/s[1]
Has Identical CurvesWith Ws and Without[1]
UsesStandard Backprop[2]
Has ConvergenceLoss 9 9 to 7 6[3]
Is Workingnull[4]
Uses Lr0.000005[5]
Superior to LoheLoheoptimizer[6]
Induces Mode ConcentrationSpectral Entropy[6]
Exhibits Decreasing Spectral EntropyHe[6]
Exhibits Monotonic Climb in CoherenceSys R[6]
Exhibits Ordered Phase Emergenceas predicted[6]
Exhibits Pair Similarities ConvergenceBlocks[6]
Signals Hub EmergencePv Min[6]
Shows Pk0 Drift Downslightly[6]
Shows Multimodal Hub SignaturePv Max[6]
Has He Change1.195 → 1.167[6]
Has Pv Min Collapse0.127 → 0.012[6]
Matches Predictionexactly as predicted[6]
Has Sys Beta Change5.6 → 8.3[6]
Lacks Full Power Migration to Low K1k Steps[6]
Has Sys R Change0.590 → 0.687 (+16%)[6]
Indicates System OrderingSys Beta[6]
Serves As BenchmarkFrom Scratch[7]
Is StableAs Is[8]
Lacks ProblemsTraining Run[8]
Presupposes Existence ofPotential Problems[8]
Has No ProblemTraining Run[8]
Has Total Time Ms457.5[9]
Has Forward Time Ms143.8[9]
Has Total Tokens Per Second71600[9]
Has Optimizer Time Ms15.8[9]
Has Backward Time Ms297.1[9]
Dominated by Backward65[9]
Was Previously Defaulttrue[10]
Includes ConstraintStrict Sphere Zero Mean[10]
Not Used AsProduction Path[10]
Causes Physics EnforcementLohe Based Blocks[11]
Enforces Physical Lawstrue[11]
Uses StrategyStandard Backprop[12]
Exhibits StateOrdered Phase Event[13]
Has Metric Start0.59[13]
Has Metric End0.687[13]
Metric Change+16%[13]
Has Sys Beta Start5.6[13]
Has Sys Beta End8.3[13]
Has Spectral Entropy Start1.195[13]
Has Spectral Entropy End1.167[13]
Exhibits PatternMultimodal Hub Signature[13]
Has Validation Ppl2490[15]

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76 undated
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convergesSlowlyblah/watt-activation/part-99
ex:training
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achievesMemorySavingsblah/watt-activation/part-99
-14% peak
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includesblah/watt-activation/part-99
ex:tangent-projection
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isSlowerByblah/watt-activation/part-99
~3%
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usesMemoryblah/watt-activation/part-99
325MB
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configAvgRotationblah/watt-activation/part-99
lr=3e-4, wd=0.01, beta1=0.9
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despiteExtraOpsblah/watt-activation/part-99
ex:tangent-projection-ops
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requiresLongerHorizonsblah/watt-activation/part-99
ex:stabilization
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pplAtIterationsblah/watt-activation/part-99
1462 at 1K iters
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throughputblah/watt-activation/part-99
174 it/s
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hasIdenticalCurvesblah/watt-activation/part-99
ex:with-ws-and-without
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usesblah/watt-activation/part-122
ex:standard-backprop
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hasConvergenceblah/watt-activation/part-184
ex:loss-9-9-to-7-6
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isWorkingblah/watt-activation/part-188
null
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usesLrblah/watt-activation/part-191
0.000005
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superiorToLoheblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:loheoptimizer
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inducesModeConcentrationblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:spectral-entropy
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exhibitsDecreasingSpectralEntropyblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:he
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exhibitsMonotonicClimbInCoherenceblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:sys-r
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exhibitsOrderedPhaseEmergenceblah/watt-activation/part-186
as predicted
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exhibitsPairSimilaritiesConvergenceblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:blocks
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signalsHubEmergenceblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:pv-min
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showsPk0DriftDownblah/watt-activation/part-186
slightly
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showsMultimodalHubSignatureblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:pv-max
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hasHeChangeblah/watt-activation/part-186
1.195 → 1.167
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hasPvMinCollapseblah/watt-activation/part-186
0.127 → 0.012
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matchesPredictionblah/watt-activation/part-186
exactly as predicted
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hasSysBetaChangeblah/watt-activation/part-186
5.6 → 8.3
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lacksFullPowerMigrationToLowKblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:1k-steps
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hasSysRChangeblah/watt-activation/part-186
0.590 → 0.687 (+16%)
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indicatesSystemOrderingblah/watt-activation/part-186
ex:sys-beta
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servesAsBenchmarkblah/watt-activation/part-190
ex:from-scratch
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isStableblah/watt-activation/part-211
ex:as-is
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lacksProblemsblah/watt-activation/part-211
ex:training-run
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presupposesExistenceOfblah/watt-activation/part-211
ex:potential-problems
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hasNoProblemblah/watt-activation/part-211
ex:training-run
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hasTotalTimeMsblah/watt-activation/part-294
457.5
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hasForwardTimeMsblah/watt-activation/part-294
143.8
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hasTotalTokensPerSecondblah/watt-activation/part-294
71600
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hasOptimizerTimeMsblah/watt-activation/part-294
15.8
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hasBackwardTimeMsblah/watt-activation/part-294
297.1
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dominatedByBackwardblah/watt-activation/part-294
65
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wasPreviouslyDefaultblah/watt-activation/part-360
true
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includesConstraintblah/watt-activation/part-360
ex:strict-sphere-zero-mean
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keptOnlyAsblah/watt-activation/part-360
ex:ablation-path
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keptOnlyAsblah/watt-activation/part-360
ex:alternate-path
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notUsedAsblah/watt-activation/part-360
ex:production-path
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causesPhysicsEnforcementblah/watt-activation/part-385
ex:lohe-based-blocks
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enforcesPhysicsblah/watt-activation/part-385
true
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enforcesPhysicalLawsblah/watt-activation/part-385
true
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labelblah/watt-activation/122
RotAdamW
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usesStrategyblah/watt-activation/122
ex:standard-backprop
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typeblah/watt-activation/186
ex:Algorithm
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labelblah/watt-activation/186
RotAdamW
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exhibitsStateblah/watt-activation/186
ex:ordered-phase-event
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hasMetricStartblah/watt-activation/186
0.59
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hasMetricEndblah/watt-activation/186
0.687
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metricChangeblah/watt-activation/186
+16%
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hasSysBetaStartblah/watt-activation/186
5.6
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hasSysBetaEndblah/watt-activation/186
8.3
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hasSpectralEntropyStartblah/watt-activation/186
1.195
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hasSpectralEntropyEndblah/watt-activation/186
1.167
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exhibitsPatternblah/watt-activation/186
ex:multimodal-hub-signature
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labelblah/watt-activation/188
RotationalAdamW
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typeblah/watt-activation/188
ex:SoftwareSystem
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typeblah/watt-activation/190
ex:OptimizationAlgorithm
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labelblah/watt-activation/190
RotAdamW
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hasValidationPplblah/watt-activation/190
2490
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typeblah/watt-activation/383
ex:Optimizer
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labelblah/watt-activation/383
RotAdamW
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enforcesPhysicsblah/watt-activation/383
ex:lohe-based-block
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applicableToblah/watt-activation/383
ex:harmonicgpt
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applicableToblah/watt-activation/383
ex:wire-work
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hasComponentblah/watt-activation/383
ex:r-adaptive
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hasComponentblah/watt-activation/383
ex:compiledrotationaladamw
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hasComponentblah/watt-activation/383
ex:centering-diagnostics

References (16)

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  1. [1]Part 9911 facts
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  2. [2]Part 1221 fact
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  3. [3]Part 1841 fact
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  4. [4]Part 1881 fact
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  5. [5]Part 1911 fact
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  6. [6]Part 18616 facts
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  7. [7]Part 1901 fact
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  8. [8]Part 2114 facts
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  9. [9]Part 2946 facts
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  10. [10]Part 3605 facts
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  11. [11]Part 3853 facts
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    • full textwatt-activation-122
      text/plain3 KBdoc:agent/watt-activation-122/57649dd0-cec5-4d9a-bc09-bec5f2db2137
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      [2026-03-09 01:19] xenonfun: ⏺ BP = Backpropagation — whether the optimizer computes gradients via automatic differentiation or not. Adam / RotAdamW use standard backprop: 1. Forward pass → compute loss 2. nn.value_and_grad() → autod…
  13. [13]18611 facts
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      [2026-03-10 03:00] lisamegawatts: might need to feed it how to compute these [2026-03-10 03:00] xenonfun: `logs/phase_metrics_20260309_225648.jsonl` log collections ``` {"r": 0.6015, "b": 5.6972, "pm": 0.2788, "pv": 0.1787}, {"r": 0.5995, "…
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      [2026-03-10 03:16] xenonfun: well I imagine data from working RotAdamW will be informative for it as to how to correct behavior / step issues in LoheOptimizer [2026-03-10 03:17] xenonfun: also that will be recorded [2026-03-10 03:38] xenonf…
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    • full textwatt-activation-190
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      [2026-03-10 03:51] xenonfun: ⏺ The fix is working. Here's the comparison: ``` ┌────────────────┬────────────────┬────────────────────────────┐ │ Metric │ Before fix │ After fix │ ├────────────────┼────────…
  16. [16]3838 facts
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